1 00:00:05,510 --> 00:00:03,350 in 2023 what does credible evidence of 2 00:00:07,610 --> 00:00:05,520 ET look like 3 00:00:10,129 --> 00:00:07,620 well I think 4 00:00:11,810 --> 00:00:10,139 I don't I don't actually know 5 00:00:13,249 --> 00:00:11,820 um for the simple reason that I don't 6 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:13,259 know what 7 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:16,740 an ET might look like which is also a 8 00:00:20,570 --> 00:00:18,720 really boring answer but um 9 00:00:23,390 --> 00:00:20,580 I mean what I would want to see are 10 00:00:25,670 --> 00:00:23,400 observations again made with instruments 11 00:00:28,550 --> 00:00:25,680 that were calibrated for the purposes 12 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:28,560 that they were being used for 13 00:00:33,170 --> 00:00:30,840 um you know multi-spectral observations 14 00:00:36,590 --> 00:00:33,180 of the same object potentially you know 15 00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:36,600 made by multiple people where we have 16 00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:38,520 data from sensors that matches 17 00:00:43,490 --> 00:00:41,700 eyewitness reports and then after that 18 00:00:46,010 --> 00:00:43,500 that's just the beginning right so 19 00:00:47,690 --> 00:00:46,020 that's that's step one and then after 20 00:00:49,549 --> 00:00:47,700 that you go and you interrogate all of 21 00:00:52,850 --> 00:00:49,559 that and say well 22 00:00:55,130 --> 00:00:52,860 in the search for life beyond Earth 23 00:00:58,069 --> 00:00:55,140 um you know life is the hypothesis of 24 00:00:59,689 --> 00:00:58,079 Last Resort you have to systematically 25 00:01:01,310 --> 00:00:59,699 rule out everything else that something 26 00:01:03,950 --> 00:01:01,320 could possibly be 27 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:03,960 before you look at that answer and so 28 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,760 you know what else could this possibly 29 00:01:10,969 --> 00:01:08,159 be what we've seen 30 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:10,979 um you know even during even the meeting 31 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:12,900 um we saw some videos that looked like 32 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:14,760 they were showing objects behaving very 33 00:01:20,810 --> 00:01:19,200 very weirdly but the explanations were 34 00:01:23,090 --> 00:01:20,820 you know this is just the way that the 35 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:23,100 sensor was moving or this object looks 36 00:01:27,410 --> 00:01:24,479 like it's moving really quickly because 37 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:27,420 the plane that was looking at it is 38 00:01:32,929 --> 00:01:30,240 going 430 miles an hour so that you know 39 00:01:35,030 --> 00:01:32,939 the sensor is moving really quickly 40 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:35,040 um so can we rule out sensor artifacts 41 00:01:38,569 --> 00:01:36,900 can we rule out like what what do we 42 00:01:42,050 --> 00:01:38,579 need to rule out before we can say all 43 00:01:43,190 --> 00:01:42,060 right like we have landed at a point 44 00:01:46,550 --> 00:01:43,200 where